i'll see if i can locate those two tracks...perhaps the albums that you've mentioned will give me a better representation of their sound. then again, it may just not be for me. or it could be a fiery furnaces situation, where i'm fairly positive, after first listen, that i'm never going to like the songs, then keep going back because i'm curious to see if i'll feel the same way after repeat listens, then i'll actually start wanting to hear the songs because i like them. or not.